“Yep. Yeah, the the bottom of bottom of the world and the bottom of nowhere inside in New Zealand um it was. It was actually great being a kid growing up in that environment. Um, you know, being in the outdoors and you know connected to the land and that's something that's always grounded me. Um we would. We were dirt poor and we had a big family but um, you know we had. We had lots of fun and um and it was really I think um, a a shaping part of my life to grow up in that environment and spend time. Um. And somewhere that because kind of the opposite of where I've landed now in terms of high tech and and um content and gaming in the medavas.”