“But we we built a business ultimately that was generating revenue. And the reason why we got out of Bitcoin mining was to realize there are people who are mining in countries like China for free. They basically just bought the hardware. But then the electricity costs were largely subsidised as zero. We can't compete with zero. So we pivoted into software. So PNOver today is actually using blockchain or cryptography to secure ledgers for data availability and also for data auditability as well. So there's it's still a business with a growing concern today.”