“That business has done phenomenally well. I'm no longer the CEO. One of my partners is the CEO who is phenomenal, who is actually someone I met when I was at Deutsche Bank which has a trend of meeting great people in relational terms. We own and operate about 15,000 apartments now across about four different markets. We actually started what we call Pangea Mortgage Capital which is in the lending business [audio difficulties 10:48 - 10:55].”