“um I grew very, very passionate about generally, I have always been excited about physics. And then when I saw electronics, I saw electrical, I grew very attached to electronics. So around that 8, 9, 10 time I started becoming here, I want to be an engineer because that's what I love. So there was a little bit of that. And then on top of that, my brother was an engineer. So there was somebody in the family itself who just became an engineer. So I could look up to and say, oh, OK, you know what? and Being engineer is a good potential career choice.”