“Ah, strongest people at those businesses and me going through the process of talking to every single one of them in this area I've learned is completely false my initial perception of it was completely false. There are so many firms that disappointed me. That I spoke to that I came into Starry eyeed thinking they were going to be the most knowledgeable best investors I could have ever found and then there's been so many firms that have just absolutely impressed me that I would have never expected to be what they were and so it's ah that that whole. Process was eliminating as a founder and as an entrepreneur.”