“It's interesting. I built five companies as the operator. I've invested in far more throughout fund, but I built five companies as the operator. I sold three, taken one public, and now I run Zeta Global. Of the three I sold, two of them I sold to AT&T. It worked out well. We sold it to AT&T. Well, at the time, it was called Southwestern Bell Mobile Systems, which then became Singular, which then became AT&T Wireless again. You could go through the whole makeup of the telecom system, how it broke apart, lived apart, then all came back together over a 20-year period.”