“about knowing something that you didn't know at the start of the day. um And then that's for me, that's super important. Especially for a lot of engineer, I later on had the opportunity in my career to get to know. It's super important for them too. If you build a learning environment, if everybody come and then, in you know, in the morning you start, you go home, you're learning something that you didn't know. And then that keeps the individual, keeps the team motivated.”