“And yeah, you know Message Labs was a much bigger company. It had a much more professional executive team. It had you know Citippro didn't have any investors message Labs had loss of Investors. So there. There was far more experience. Heads looking at the deal. Um, and it it was a risky time to get that deal done. But um, you know it was It was just quality people who had experienced dealing with other quality people and I think everyone was happy with the deal that got done and and that that also triggered.”