“And I think I just realized if you have these basic skill sets, if you have this kind of hustle and this curiosity, and you're not afraid to communicate and you're not afraid of the new, you can kind of step from one thing to another. What brought me to to finance was I went to a degree at Columbia University at the School of International Affairs. um Everybody was very international. You have to speak two languages to go there, or three languages, two foreign languages. um And I started taking school ah classes at the engineering school and at the business school.”