“Yeah, honestly, it's something I was interested in from the very beginning. And you know even from the early ages, like I was programming maybe when I was like you know eight ten years old really excited about you know my me and my brother used to play a lot of games so we would like start getting into making games programming games things like that and that got me like pretty far along in terms of like learning how to be good at you know just making brand new things um you know making things that I can you know show my friends.”