“um I have always felt that there wasn't a good thing to do except ah you know there wasn't a a good thing that will it was celebrated on until going public, which really was the first time in and I enjoy very much. And so I guess like the long winded version to an answer is that um I actually don't think I learned that much. I've since sold other companies and it is obviously financially rewarding and it's very nice and you're happy and you go out and you drink.”