“Of courtesy appointment the visiting professorship at the Stanford ai lab I worked with sylvio saesa on a fairly large Darpa project. We had Syviville of course at the time was ah was a professor and since took the role of chief scientist in salesforce um, and and after a couple years there decided. To leave academia leave tenure which is an uncommon move and or give up tenure and and turn to to the dark side or the light side and have been been in several companies since.”