“Yeah. That actually, again, gave us a motive and a drive like, "All these people are rejecting us or treating badly." It made us more determined to prove people wrong. Yeah, I wouldn't say proving people wrong. Some people do believe in you. It's just getting that first break can be hard. I won't say that everyone was not believing in us. We did get some rejections, but people were supporting us with advice and stuff. But getting that first bit of cash and investment was the main thing that we had to work a long time for.”