Jesse Zhang on Yeah, so we pretty quickly, actually, we had fairly large c… “Yeah, so we pretty quickly, actually, we had fairly large customers that were willing to to work with us for real contracts, like six figure contracts. And we had zero revenue at the time. So we were like, oh, crap, this is this is awesome.” Read the full interview with Jesse Zhang More from this interview“Yeah, i I mean, my approach to companies is i don't think you necessarily start with a specific idea in mind. I think that's also quite dangerous for most folks. Sometimes it works out, but in genera…”“the i mean The biggest one is it's super easy to get overexcited and start building in in some direction when it's it's not really the right direction. Or you don't really think things through or or…”“And I'm sure every single founder out there has related to this at some point because it's just part of the journey and you have to get good at changing direction or people call it pivoting or or wha…”