“I did, I did. I finished high school and and I decided that I would go to to college and I would do creative writing and my parents said sort of said, well, you can't just do creative writing. You need a real career. And so I i paired it with law school at the same time. and I went through that with the intention of never being an attorney, of never being a a lawyer, and only embracing the creative writing side. And so once I finished college, I went to to New York and I embraced that. And I i was writing, i the whole experience of juggling that, ah writing in cafes 12 hours a day, submitting to all sorts of agents.”