“You know I kind of always knew that I wanted to start a company to me that was always that was always the goal and that it was what do I need to do to be prepared for that so that I can do a reasonably good job for me that was the early part of my career. It was learning ah about yeah. Engineering first and then learning about management and then learning about the different markets that I wanted to be at but to me I was new. The goal for me was always starting.”
