“I would say um iteration is extremely important and experimentation and listening to your customers. Um, I think just getting something live out there is really important. I would say that that's being not in the difference between my first company and slope. Um, first company was very driven by, okay, I'm doing all this AI research. I think this is extremely interesting. There's some big vision. Um, I think the big vision is important, uh, but equally important is also to listen to your customers. And I think it was more like of a, more of a tech, um, tech.”