“um And so, and so after I graduated, i went to go work in London. And I realized that there was tons of entrepreneurs that you know weren't computer scientists um like Richard Branson and people that just didn't even go to college um developing companies. and so And so during that time, I also worked in venture capital. I worked in insurance and I worked in PR and marketing and you know tried a bunch of different different internships and jobs and really didn't like working for other people.”