“as well as a general affinity for math and sciences. my ah And then last, I'd say I've loved rock climbing ever since probably I was 16, I got into it. And um there are certain devices in rock climbing that the physics of how they work to to basically stick into the rock to support a falling climber is really interesting. They're actually really interesting. Engineering marvel is how they were built. And I was pretty obsessed with the engineering behind them. And so those factors all made me want to go dive into the engineering world and take to that coming out of high school.”