“I was there for a couple of years. I went to May Company for a couple of years before Federated bought May Company. In that term, I decided that I wanted to get closer to the customer. While I saw us creating amazing concepts, beautiful products, as they were going through the filter of wholesale and department stores, they were getting muddied down, and the concepts were no longer holding true, so I was really fortunate that I could go to VF Corporation and start working on brands like Nautica and Kappil and start to see what it felt like to create product with the lens of one holistic brand, and that idea of brand equity.”