“I'd always said, at least for the last three or four years for sure practicing law, I said to anybody, "Any dummy who ever asked me that I'd rather be in the business side." I'm not sure that I actually meant it, but I said it. Then one day, somebody called my bluff, and some folks offered me the opportunity to leave the practice of law and come inhouse in a retail company and run legal real estate and construction and help expand the business nationally around the country, which was terrific.”