“Ah, 4001 and ah so we wish was an almost entirely a paper acquisition but the lesson number 1 and you know try get get you know, try and get cash if you can. But so anyway we had a lot of with a lot of belief in this company and. What happened was and it was a $50000000 acquisition on on paper very small amount of cash and the ipo date was you know Ah yeah I think it was end 2001 or early 2002 in between Nine Eleven happened the world absolutely changed and it scboard.”