“because money and value and energy is something that is very important. Energy, I think when society or humankind invented fire, this was very important for us. And and and this has been constantly around. So there is a lot backlogs of standards, backlogs of laws, regulations that the need to understand, but not only understand, but also change So in in those fields where I've been doing business, lobbying has been one of the main things to even do that business in certain countries.”