“Yeah, look dad was kind of cruel back in the day he took the instructions away and made me build off the picture. But I've done it to my children since right. It's a great way to spontaneously just spur creativity and ingenuity and everything doesn't have to look like the picture and it's good to break things. Right? So you have to break things first. So the idea of building off a mold was just never a part of my upbringing and so a lot of the way that I've learned how to explore.”