“And then a lot of initial pushback from the community, but a handful of people did enjoy that line of of research and were supportive. Of course, my two advisors, Chris Manning and Andrew Ng, but also, you know, Yoshua Bengio, who’s the first to invite me to come give a talk somewhere else. Hewon a Turing Award a few years ago for that deep learning work as well. So a little bit of a mix of being stubborn and first principles thinking.”