“And as it happens inside startups, you know over a period of time, you continue to pivot over many, many different kinds of ideas. And the good thing that we did at Appstetics was that we continued to pivot like every two months. And what we found out was that you know mobile meetings will be a big theme going forward in the world. And what we ended up building was the precursor to something like a Zoom, ah which allowed you to you know transfer voice and share content on mobile devices.”