“Um, it was pretty wonderful now looking back there. But yeah I grew up on a farm in Finland not far from ah the russian border my parents did not even go to high school so as you could call pretty humble beginnings. We had bunch of chickens and couple of picks and. Behalf the food we ate we grew on a farm. So I certainly learned the value and actually the joy of hard work and manual labor pretty early. It wasn't really by choice always because I had to work hard. But yeah was it was it was a beautiful time to.”