“an emotional risk and, ah you know, because they put a lot of support around me to make it happen. And besides just the capital that they contributed. So that really helped me make that launch into entrepreneurialism and um and feel good about it. And it just feels like, you know, when you think about what a great kind of senior thesis for me as I get to this stage in my career to start up a company that's gonna be a great, ah you know, pull on all that great operating experience I have and be able to, so you know, build it around the things I've learned and create something that's going to, you know, I think last for a long time.”