“In the early ‘90s, my father brought a computer home, fortunately. I don’t remember the version, but I found myself playing with DOS a lot and understanding how it works. Every time I used to break the computer, he used to bring someone to fix it, and then it became an I’ll see generation if you want, and all of the early messaging wars and early internet where I liked the program and I liked to play games. I think that combination of gaming probably brought me first. Then I learned how to code in verse places, although I’m not the best coder in the world.”