“Um, you know I like kind of I think it had to do with the fact that I had such a curiosity for how other cultures work. How other people think and I always wanted to learn so going to munich. Was a blast going to milan and work that was great going to New York as a 30 year old right? Fantastic working in Manhattan I mean it was all I it was like a sponge sponge I soaked it in everything I saw everything that I could learn from. I loved it. I love the dynamics I love the fast lane.”