“ah like almost like 14 years ago, it was really, I mean, they were super primitive. And that's why, so I decided to, so I went to, and first of all, we started with VK.com. I went to the, I was, ah so so I went to their headquarters. We had a deal that I basically, we read we we got their API and we were respond we were, we committed to bring some more revenues to them because i already had some access to small businesses.”