“Again, like airbnb you're going to actually gain money you turn your car from a money from a depreciating asset to an appreciating asset and then you know went out with a lot of guidance from the folks at singularity went out to ah to um, San Francisco and met you know folks who'd write your half million dollar check seed you know circa 2009 that was more or less the you probably remember that was kind of like the standard and you know so then we had to figure so we ended up you know, kind of figuring out who's the most right? we finished the program samit and we had to tact whoever isn't transitioning into because Sam was from canada.”