“um So SmartThings really started out an inspiration of like, well, even though I don't have expertise in this area, this seems like a really massive problem space, bringing intelligence to physical spaces in the world. And so started it up around that. And I found like, mean, this another lesson, but, you know, to follow your curiosity sometimes, even if you don't have an experience in a given area, like if you bring your curiosity and hard work into it, sometimes not having experience in that domain actually benefits.”