“And crickets in the market. You know crickets in the market for a year and a half afterwards nobody was interested in what we were selling and that was a very difficult time you know there were times I'd come home and I'd say to my wife. What was I thinking. Why didn't I sell this company. Ah and you know it took us 2 years to realize that we were in the right place at the wrong time you know 2015 when this happened cloud was still young.”