“Yeah, you know it's what I was you know talking to you before about what does it take to be successful entrepreneur and part of it is just thick skin and persistence and I just had a belief that you know the Cloud is so Complex. So much machine data that human beings just won't be able to process all this without Ai without machine learning and it just didn't make sense to me how there could be any other alternative and so just sheer stubbornness. Ah and you know. I wasn't willing to fail I just wasn't willing to call it quits.”