“As everyone does I just think it was an exceptionally ah difficult thing for us to do. It took us several years to get to that point. Um, and and I think covid has just generally changed the dynamics of fundraising in a way where people don't take physical meetings. They have a fairly high bar for people to meet in person and I do think it's a very difficult environment to. To to fundraise over video calls and I think people underappreci outbreak of a difference that is actually.”