“And I was like, well, what do you know about consulting? And he said, well, I'll teach you how to manage teams. I'll teach you how to set expectations and how to meet them and run a project and how to hire people using like consulting company techniques. I'll teach you how to, you know, really understand like how to, how to manage and hire and execute. And I was like, that's what I need. Like I can do the tech stuff.”