“Well, it was always there. So I come from a family of entrepreneurs. My father was an entrepreneur. My grandfather was an entrepreneur. There's some others scattered throughout the family. So it was always in my DNA, I think. And I always knew I i would do something in starting companies or or certainly working with young ventures. Big companies wasn't my thing. at that year when I went and got my MBA. The hot thing was going into consulting or investment banking. It still kind of goes, but that never attracted me.”