David Schaffer on Ah, so that's fast forward to 2013 um the technology was ri… “Ah, so that's fast forward to 2013 um the technology was ripe gene therapy was starting to work and the capital markets were in good shape so that was ah that was the time to to spin out that that technology into 4 d.” Read the full interview with David Schaffer More from this interview“Virus says what is this you know evolution has not prepared me throughout tens of millions of years to be able to infect and deliver dnas to the cells successfully so we invented a technology that en…”“In 2013? Um gene therapy was starting to work a man as you well know 2008 was a huge disruption to the world into the capital markets and a lot of capital was sitting on the sidelines for a few years…”“This could be ah, an immunotherapy the basis of a therapeutic for ah for cancer. So we implemented for the first time the idea of evolving vaccinia or creating new versions of Vaccinia that would exc…”