“Oh man, it's I mean I had I was very fortunate I had a family that was supportive family had a brother a sister mom and dad. You know a a um upper middle class town Good school. So um, no real things to persevere through in Childhood. Um, and and I was just always interested in Science. My kids like to make fun of me now I tell them it's true I was actually interested in school I Loved school I liked learning stuff and and that was the environment I grew up in my my parents actually owned a community pharmacy. 1 of the last independent Pharmacies. So I Also got to See. Um, you know the health care through small town business.”