“Probably, more dude because sometimes, what people don't realize is — let's say like Shyp raised 60 million, but the peak valuation was 275 million. That meant that Shyp couldn't sell for less than that because if they sold for 100 million, then all of the money would have gone to the investors. So if Shyp hadn't raised any money, maybe it could have sold for 100 million or something. It would have been an awesome outcome for employees and the founders, but because it raised so much money, that meant it had to fail for maybe close to a billion to get the same outcome.”
