“Exactly. So after SecureIT, I never went out looking for money. I funded CoreHarbor all by myself. I funded CipherTrust all by myself. Now, I did take a round towards the end of it, and that's because I was working on going public and I wanted somebody, an outside investment because it seems weird to go public without any external funds. But that was the last date. That business went very well. We were cashflow positive after only about three years, and we had some impressive growth. So very happy with the business. We had some of the largest companies around the U.S. as its customers.”