“de-risk the overall vision, then what I needed were were people who were going to work toward making that vision successful. And I wasn't going to do it myself. And even with with Tim, my co-founder initially, the two of us came from very similar backgrounds. And so we needed someone with a business background, someone with business acumen, particularly in the gaming industry. We needed someone who understood trust and safety really, really well. ah we needed We needed a tech technical co-founder as well, because we didn't have one.”