“Yeah, so totally. It was pretty crazy. So we we came from Finland. We had like absolutely no connections in the US, maybe like a cousin's cousin or something, but that's it. you know we knew We knew no one, and we were kind of completely on our own. And we figured that there's got to be a hack. There's got to be a way for us to gain credibility and to become you know ah become a company and and a group of founders that starts to be more interesting in the market.”