“ah running engineering, data science, products, security, and so on. And then he ah he's the CEO, he's my manager. And that's worked, I think, for phenomenally well. And it's really helped the stock price as well. The public market saw right away, and Oscar is serious about staying on this path of profitability and growing the business. and I think, hopefully, public markets also thought Mario's still there to provide technology leadership and stuff like that.”