“You need more capabilities. You need scale. um You need to take on and out outside capital and ah and find a firm to merge with. And so ah we took on outside capital in 2014. We took on convertible debt. And ah I'll say that team there gave me an MBA in ah M and&A, which I'm internally grateful for and thankful. And we went on a national search and acquired our first firm in Boston. It was another $4 billion dollars firm in 2015. And all of a sudden we are in the outside capital and M and&A game, which ah I can't tell you that was part of the original business plan.”