“Yeah. Yeah, I guess I didn't really see this business as even a real business back then, even though when I look back on it, it was actually a really lucrative, great business. um I think I just felt i it would be helpful. And honestly, I'm not sure if this was right. But at the time, I thought it would be really helpful to go get a job in a real company to actually get real skills and learn. I didn't really consider what I was doing real skills back then for some reason. They were probably the most real ones, though.”