“um you know By then, it was clear that it was this incredible platform where it was on this huge ascendancy. and was you know It was also a window of time where it's like almost the honeymoon phase with the media and the world etc where everyone just like love google google had like almost infinite resources and for someone who enjoys building um you know it was a time where you can kind of show up and as long as you are. Building interesting products and interesting and interested in spending all of your time and headspace trying to innovate.”