“Look I was one of those kids that grew up trading stocks even back in the 90 s and in those days we were still reading stock quotes and newspapers and I was always just obsessed with the stock market. So I always had ah. A little bit of money that I had at the time invested and so I was just kind of always fascinated by the markets and so even though I I did engineering with the idea as a backup that I could rely on that profession and and probably have ah a decent career. I always knew in the in the deepest sense that I wanted to be closer to the markets.”