“um So I am what people would call the rational one now. So he and I ah have learned how to how to work together obviously over the years. I would say he is probably the big picture guy and I am more the how, the execution side of it. and that ends up working very well. And ah those that we've been fortunate to work with over the years have learned that distinction, i' sometimes trial by fire, but ah we've been able to to balance each other.”